sane people don't want to work, but recognize that one must in order to survive and to make other net-beneficial trade-offs
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Replying to @LiftWorkRepeat @random_eddie
Eddie is making a very 1992 libertarian argument. "Work is hard, and it's a COST that is balanced against RETURNS, and we should be careful to never confuse the tool necessary to generate wealth with the wealth itself". And he's not wrong, per se, but ...pic.twitter.com/di3nWnbkdJ
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Replying to @MorlockP @random_eddie
the problem is that his One True Fact, followed to its logical extreme, gives us a world where everyone is cashing their UBI checks and playing MMORPGs all day long. It's a True Fact, but it's not the ONLY true fact.
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Replying to @MorlockP @random_eddie
and I tease him lightly not because of his words but because of the cultural baggage that they inevitably bring with them
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Replying to @MorlockP
Playing MMORPGs all day (or whatever other form of consumption others find desirable) is the end goal. Capitalism is the means to achieve it. It rewards those who sacrifice in order to better satisfy others' desires and thus guides us to the goal. +
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Replying to @random_eddie @MorlockP
Sacrifice to create a better world that nobody else wants is not virtuous, it's either selfish ("I'm a good person!") or wasteful.
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Replying to @random_eddie
> to create a better world not at all what I was getting at To make an analogy: you can either look at exercise as a pure cost to be born to achieve fitness ... or you can look at it as a form of excellence (virtus / arete) that has value in and of itself.
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Replying to @MorlockP
I understand what you're getting at, and agree, sort-of. In the idle utopia, the MMO players will be pursuing excellence / virtus / arete, even while doing nothing "productive" (i.e. not increasing the capital stock and productive capacity). +
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Replying to @random_eddie @MorlockP
I posit that the virtuous elements of work that you proclaim - as distinct from their productive aspects, for which you sacrifice and are rewarded for materially - are best seen as "challenge". Humans need challenge, and are rewarded psychically for both pursuit and success. +
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