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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @amelapay

      Doing it on 40 acres doesn't make the market price any more controllable

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    2. ./agstover.exe‏ @AGStover 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @amelapay

      It kind of does because when you're selling directly to your customers, neighbors and local businesses, a President that randomly shuts off trade w/China or sets tarrifs/quotas doesn't mean much to you. We just have to sit here and eat shit because politics turned off soy market.

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @amelapay

      Ok, so small farms mean that politicians can't shut off trade?

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    4. ./agstover.exe‏ @AGStover 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @amelapay

      A lot harder to stop me from selling beef to my neighbor than to Fu Xiaosheng in Chengdu, but yes, your'e right. It's possible for the government to interfere in domestic trade.

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @amelapay

      Your entire argument started with the fact that the government ALREADY DOES. At this point I'm not sure what you're arguing. I'm going to bed.

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    6. ./agstover.exe‏ @AGStover 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @amelapay

      I'm arguing that state interference causes pastured product prices to be artificially high and industrial ag prices to be artificially low. Sans state interference I believe pastured could be cheaper or extremely competitive despite economies of scale.

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    7. ./agstover.exe‏ @AGStover 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @MorlockP @amelapay

      I also pointed out that industrial ag is a commodity, which means you pay commodities market price and that's it. This contrasts w/owning entire value chain from field to customer where you have more control over how product goes to market which means more control over pricing.

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    8. ./agstover.exe‏ @AGStover 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @MorlockP @amelapay

      It means more control over distribution. It means more control over presentation and relationships. Just because the state interferes and raises prices *doesn't mean* that a local grower w/local market has less control over prices they fetch than Dad who gets paid what CBOT says.

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    9. ./agstover.exe‏ @AGStover 20 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @MorlockP @amelapay

      Already with the unfollow? We can't have a discussion? I didn't even know we were arguing.

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 21 Apr 2019
      Replying to @AGStover @amelapay

      1/ your stance is, I think: * FDA and USDA make agriculture into a commodity, and that means that a small family farm that sells to its neighbors is uneconomical * while there are economies of scale, there are diseconomies, like large tractors and feedlots

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 21 Apr 2019
      Replying to @MorlockP @AGStover @amelapay

      2/ my stance is: * agriculture has ALWAYS been an economy, going back as far as Rome, and certainly in the US from the 1830s through the 1840s, and this is reflected in politics (blockades of southern cotton exports in Civ War, "cross of gold" politics in 1880s"

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 21 Apr 2019
          Replying to @MorlockP @AGStover @amelapay

          3/ * the FDA and USDA aren't great, but don't significantly make the problem worse. I can sell my neighbor a half pig, or I can send my entire pig to the local butcher and have it processed for less than I could butcher it myself,

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 21 Apr 2019
          Replying to @MorlockP @AGStover @amelapay

          4/ so the "buy pork and beef from neighbors" argument falls down because we can ALREADY DO THAT. * economies of scale from train transportation of live animals, refrigerated transportation of cut meat, etc. was revolutionary 140 years ago. Far pre-FDA / USDA.

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