I find it odd to call remarks "outrageous". This sounds like a testable hypothesis. Why, post-Enlightenment, would anyone ever choose to take the Dark Age path of being outraged when they can instead gather data and test a hypothesis? Sad. https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1115926643799932929 …
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2/ I find it interesting how you capitalized the 'e' in the word 'each', giving the impression that it was the beginning of the sentence...when, in fact, you've removed the first 2/3 of the sentence where he talks about ideological indoctrination. https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/1115926971819732992 …
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3/ And then, of course, after
@georgeeaton selectively edits the quote to remove part about ideological indoctrination,@jkbloodtreasure pushes the meaning further, to imply that it's about looks. Then@amendlocke and others RT it, thinking it's real.https://twitter.com/jkbloodtreasure/status/1115946353966878721 …ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs added,
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None of us is stupid enough to think Scruton is stupid enough to think Chinese all look the same. But he's well smart enough to play on the trope. Dogs don't have thumbs, but they can hear whistles.
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So a righty says "the Chinese state indoctrinates people" and other righties say "oh, that's bad", but a lefties look at this and say "ok, we're going to ignore both the literal meaning of the words AND what the audience claims to hear, because we know what they REALLY mean" ?
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That seems like the opposite of steel-manning. Is there any possible way for righties to express concern about ideological indoctrination, or do you map every possible expression of concern to "well OBVIOUSLY their TRUE concern is racism" ?
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Because if the latter, then you've constructed an airtight ideological / epistemological bubble that forces you to ignore EVERYTHING from outside, because you already know the truth. ...which seems fairly totalitarian / anti-Enlightenment, no?
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I don't think this is what's going on here (
@jkbloodtreasure in particular has banged on for years about Chinese state indoctrination) but by all means have your fun.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
I'm not trying to have fun, I'm asking serious questions about epistemic bubbles, and if there is a way for people on the right to express certain thoughts in ways that won't be discounted on the left. I am looking for an answer, not trying to score points.
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I know, I know, but you've just wandered into a bit of Brit left banter about what is undoubtedly a wind-up by Scruton. We know him of old (I've read him off and on since the 1980s).
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Well, as I said to @_HelenDale elsewhere, I've never heard of Scuton before today...but I do dislike selective edits & games of telephone. It's bad when the American left does it, bad when the American right does it (and I criticize both) ...but, also, there is a place for bantz
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