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I mean, yes, every word that @sonyaellenmann says is true. The format of Christmas celebrations certainly involved osmotic absorbtion of other cultural norms. And the the market, and the desire to feast are two of those.
...but what holiday DOESN'T evolve in that way?
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3/ So the argument that "Christmas isn't purely Christian" is true, but it's true in a trivial way - it's a mix of Christianity and HUMAN BEHAVIORS. Heinlein said that you put two Hong Kong Chinee is a crater and they start selling rocks back and forth and get rich....
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4/ I say that you put two humans anywhere and give them a religious holiday - from ANY religion - and the result is that there is feasting and commerce and small threads of all other cultural traditions they already have mixed in.
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5/ So, if X is true of Christmas AND EVERYTHING ELSE ... then it's deeply uninteresting to say that X is true of Christmas. "Bob is angry" "Well, AKSHUALLY Bob is made out of atoms" "uh...yeah...so is everyone. Anyway, Bob is angry".
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6/ The modern war on Christmas / trying to make Christmas a non Christian holiday is in fact a change from the last 2,000 years, when Christmas was a mix of things, but the celebration of the birth of the Son of God was foremost among them.
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyaellenmann
I wouldn't call it a War On Christmas so much as a Retreat From Religion and a Charge Towards Profit. Yes, there are some OMG We Can't Mention Jesus That's Discrimination people out there, but they basically don't matter.
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The culture as a whole is drifting in a secular-ish direction, but most people are still religious, go to church, know that Christmas is about Jesus and are fine with that, AND ALSO love all the secular Christmas stuff and don't see what the big deal is.
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Replying to @random_eddie @sonyaellenmann
> The culture as a whole is drifting in a secular-ish direction Disagree. They're moving into a new religion composed of ecology-worship, IFLS™, a hereditary caste of high priests, etc.
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyaellenmann
Opiates are the religion of the people.
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Lord, bless this probably stepped-on bag of heroin, and protect us from overdose! Amen.
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mom, pass the serving straw ?
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