if you want to make Passover about Judaism, fine if you want to make Diwali about Hinduism, meh, whatever If you want to make Ramadan about Islam, sure... The error here is growing up in post-Christian America and thinking that bukake has ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia https://twitter.com/sonyasupposedly/status/1075181224912535552 …
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2/ I mean, yes, every word that
@sonyaellenmann says is true. The format of Christmas celebrations certainly involved osmotic absorbtion of other cultural norms. And the the market, and the desire to feast are two of those. ...but what holiday DOESN'T evolve in that way?4 replies 0 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
3/ So the argument that "Christmas isn't purely Christian" is true, but it's true in a trivial way - it's a mix of Christianity and HUMAN BEHAVIORS. Heinlein said that you put two Hong Kong Chinee is a crater and they start selling rocks back and forth and get rich....
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4/ I say that you put two humans anywhere and give them a religious holiday - from ANY religion - and the result is that there is feasting and commerce and small threads of all other cultural traditions they already have mixed in.
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5/ So, if X is true of Christmas AND EVERYTHING ELSE ... then it's deeply uninteresting to say that X is true of Christmas. "Bob is angry" "Well, AKSHUALLY Bob is made out of atoms" "uh...yeah...so is everyone. Anyway, Bob is angry".
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6/ The modern war on Christmas / trying to make Christmas a non Christian holiday is in fact a change from the last 2,000 years, when Christmas was a mix of things, but the celebration of the birth of the Son of God was foremost among them.
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyaellenmann
Christmas has been a family holiday since the Victorians remade it. It's been cultural all your life
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Replying to @Bethpresswood @sonyaellenmann
so you're saying my family HASN'T gone to midnight mass ?
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyaellenmann
I'm saying you understand that millions of people do Christmas without going to midnight mass and that plenty of people at midnight mass don't really believe either
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so you're saying you agree with my thesis that Christmas is a COMBINED religious / cultural / market holiday?
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyaellenmann
Yes, except that there's no modern war on Christmas
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