translation: "remove the power to define ethics from self, parents, friends, and religious leaders, and give it to academics" https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/1067497431057743875 …
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Replying to @el33th4xor
It seems to be a corollary to your point, no? We listen to CS profs on data structures and compilers because (a) there is one right answer, (b) our intuitions are wrong / stupid, (c) the profs know better than we do. None of these are proven to be true re ethics.
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Replying to @MorlockP
There are many topics where (a) there is no one right answer (b) our intuitions aren't wrong or stupid but may be uninformed and the issues non-obvious, (c) the profs know no better than anyone else, but they are capable of facilitating a discussion.
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Replying to @el33th4xor
Your position has switched in two tweets from "ethics must be TAUGHT" to "professors can facilitate a discussion". Former is objectionable bc it proposes that CS profs have better/correct ethics. Latter is objectionable bc it proposes (w/o proof) that a discussion is useful.
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Replying to @MorlockP
You have some deep-seated issues with a distrust of academics that blind you to what is actually being said, so you're making up some random crap.
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Replying to @el33th4xor @MorlockP
CS depts must teach ethics. Empirically, we see our students going into the business of building a surveillance apparatus. This is not at the exclusion of others who teach ethics. They should, too.
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Replying to @el33th4xor @MorlockP
By the way, those other sources of ethics education that you exalt are, evidently, not very effective, because a large portion of the CS field is actively building a surveillance apparatus with no regard for privacy.
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What you fail to understand is that you have selected one ethical stance ("privacy is good!"), and have not defended it, at all. As it turns out, I agree w you - but this is a choice of axioms, not something that can be proven. You wish to indoctrinate students w your morality.
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Replying to @MorlockP
No. I do not teach ethics or privacy, nor do I have any interest in indoctrination. You have evidently had a bad experience with some profs, which you now combatively project onto every other academic. It's best to end this discussion.
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