Interesting that so many pro-vegan arguments (eg in https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9gb7tt/extrapolating_the_eat_beef_not_chicken_argument/e63flw0/ …) are intrinsically irrationalist, particularly juxtaposed against the usual rationalism.
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Replying to @St_Rev @sonyaellenmann
I wonder if tribal identity / loyalty comes first, and if 2/3 of that identity is rationalism™, then they perform the rituals of rationalism™, but when 1/3 of it is Berkeley liberalism, they perform those rituals instead ...and no contradiction bc in every case, identity wins?
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this echoes the fact that many people lie at the intersection of "I'd never kill a chicken, it's a living thing" and "a 6 month fetus is some cells" (yes, there are nuanced takes where a chicken is tasty for 15 minutes but an abortion can spare someone decades of obligation)
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I do not believe, but can understand / have respect for the argument that the fetus slowly transitions from 0 moral worth to full moral worth I will defend "no abortions on day 2" intellectually, but have no emotional angst at idea of RU-486 at that point
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There is a sense in which "theft" literally just means "bad-taking" and murder literally means "bad-killing."
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and another one in which theft means "not approved by tribal powers taking" and murder means "..." C.f. "I don't understand why you're upset that he was fired for being an incel; that's not a PROTECTED CLASS" <face palm>
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