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Replying to @MorlockP
Well, the person who seems to have coined them was in a violent off-shoot of the Aryan Nations, to start.
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Replying to @LucyStag
yep, and I'll happily condemn Aryan Nations. but that's an ad hominem is there anything objectionable about the phrase?
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Replying to @MorlockP
The person who coined the slogan was vile, and it's generally used by vile people who also love that 88. That's not *the* reason why they're heinous, but that's reason enough to not use the words.
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Replying to @LucyStag
Well, now we've switched from "the words are bad" to "it's non-pragmatic to use the words"...which is a good clarification of the stance. ...BUT... by identifying thing X and speaker Y and engaging in ad hominems, we de legitimize X and implicitly endorse anti-X
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Replying to @MorlockP
They're tainted. Their origin is Neo-Nazi. The sentiment is a 'roided out, premptive "all lives matter." It is an attempt to prioritize white children who are in imaginary danger.
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Replying to @LucyStag
I don't agree that words get tainted. I think that Karl Marx's quote about "A man should be a hunter, a critic, etc." is an awesome quote, even though Marxism has killed hundreds of millions.
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This is actually the only reasonable defence I've heard that doesn't just ignore the David Lane connexion.
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Still. There are other ways to render the same idea. One of my favourite phrases is "suum cuique". "Jedem das Seine", on the other hand...
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agreed! like I said, I'm not arguing "hey, guys, here's a great way to get the message out!" I'm merely having a fun intellectual discussion and probing at emotional responses bc lulz
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