88 is totally beyond the pale and absolutely evil, but the 14 is unobjectionable / actively good https://twitter.com/dylanmatt/status/1008701016995454976 …
yep, and I'll happily condemn Aryan Nations. but that's an ad hominem is there anything objectionable about the phrase?
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The person who coined the slogan was vile, and it's generally used by vile people who also love that 88. That's not *the* reason why they're heinous, but that's reason enough to not use the words.
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Well, now we've switched from "the words are bad" to "it's non-pragmatic to use the words"...which is a good clarification of the stance. ...BUT... by identifying thing X and speaker Y and engaging in ad hominems, we de legitimize X and implicitly endorse anti-X
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