The you-after-1000-years says to a forked copy of you, "I have exhaustively verified this computational machinery. Choose wisely."
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Replying to @MoralOfStory @ReferentOfSelf and
(Omega resets both copies & repeats this process a gajillion times until they find the combination of words which creates in you the correct state of belief)
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Replying to @MoralOfStory @ContentOfMedia and
What does that get you? Yes, we can hypothesize all sort of you-like things which come to believe arbitrary things. But you aren't them; you don't know what it is like to be them.
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Replying to @ReferentOfSelf @ContentOfMedia and
Yes, you can't access that epistemic state and nearly everyone who thinks they can is confabulating (that goes for much more mundane thought experiments, too). But is it invalid to reflect on what you'd want that you to choose?
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Replying to @MoralOfStory @ContentOfMedia and
It is not invalid to reflect on what you think you might choose, but understanding that your action will affect quantityOf(3^^^3) people seems like such an alien state of mind that you can't have a good idea what you might choose
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Replying to @ReferentOfSelf @ContentOfMedia and
I think nearly all responses to "what would you do when faced with X" questions are confabulation and I don't think this case is especially worse than most.
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Replying to @MoralOfStory @ReferentOfSelf and
Anyway, (IMO) the point of the thought experiment isn't to reproduce your hypothetical internal state, it's to figure out without pressure what you'd want yourself to do.
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Replying to @MoralOfStory @ContentOfMedia and
At what point does this stop making sense: Dust speck Ramsey number R(10^100,10^100) people, dust speck BB(50000) people, aleph_0 people, aleph_1 people
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Replying to @ReferentOfSelf @ContentOfMedia and
Me a year or two ago would have stopped at BB, but now I think likely all of those are fine, they just imply the copy of me deciding has to be embedded in bigger and bigger systems.
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Replying to @MoralOfStory @ContentOfMedia and
> they just imply the copy of me deciding has to be embedded in bigger and bigger systems But right now, you thinking about this, you only have ideas of you in ideas of bigger and bigger systems. This is not actually you how you are right now in the real universe that you are in
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Any sufficiently successful AI will need to operate in those conditions. I believe I recognize the distinction you're trying to make and think it's not important in this case.
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