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    1. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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      ... and where it would require probably more bits of information than the human mind can handle to communicate the version of the thought experiment which doesn't make that type error by communicating the quantity instead of the term of type Nat"

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    2. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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      And it would probably take more bits of information than the human mind can handle to actually be in the situation where you can be justified in believing Omega's claim about the possibility of dust specking 3^^^3 people

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    3. Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 25 Feb 2018
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      Are you claiming 1) no one can feel the full force of 3^^^3 of anything, therefore the thought experiment is broken, or 2) no one can have a justified belief involving 3^^^3 of anything, therefore it is broken?

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    4. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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      2 but more specific to your action reaching those people. As in it is always the case that you should believe that choosing dust specks does something which doesn't make sense to be described as "dust speck 3^^^3" people. Either Omega is confused or lying or something else.

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    5. Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 25 Feb 2018
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      Omega has an arbitrary amount of computer power and has dedicated 3^^^3 people-sims to the experiment. What is necessarily unbelievable about this? (please include standard caveats, like yes this doesn't fit in our universe etc)

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    6. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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      You need to be able to know that Omega has arbitrary amounts of computing power. At some point, you won't be able to tell between the capacity of two super powerful computers.

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    7. Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 25 Feb 2018
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      Omega reverses sha-256, and the reversals are all limerick-meter summaries of the original. Omega replays your life history (found it in a sim). Omega shows you the computational machinery and the program which is running. Omega runs a program of your choosing.

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    8. Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 25 Feb 2018
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      This is a sim. Omega has 1000s of years to convince you.

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    9. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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      The first two require far less computational power than simming 3^^^3 people. You need to also comprehend the hardware which will be unimaginably huge. You need to already know the output of the program.

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    10. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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      And there is no way you can know what you-after-1000-years-of-convincing is like or what they would choose.

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      Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 25 Feb 2018
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      The you-after-1000-years says to a forked copy of you, "I have exhaustively verified this computational machinery. Choose wisely."

      9:14 PM - 25 Feb 2018
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        2. Moral Of Story‏ @MoralOfStory 25 Feb 2018
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          (Omega resets both copies & repeats this process a gajillion times until they find the combination of words which creates in you the correct state of belief)

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        3. Referent Of Self‏ @ReferentOfSelf 25 Feb 2018
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          What does that get you? Yes, we can hypothesize all sort of you-like things which come to believe arbitrary things. But you aren't them; you don't know what it is like to be them.

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