The Chinese believe they are the greatest civilization in all of history and have been so for the past 5000 years, with the last 100 or so being the exception, not the rule. Any rule, regulation, or law imposed on them from outside which impedes their (in their mind) ascendance..
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to their rightful place as the greatest power in the world, is unfair and an attempt to keep the Chinese down. So...good fucking luck achieving an amicable agreement! 好运!
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I'd also argue that the Chinese know a shit-ton more about "eating bitter" than any American...so the prospects of them folding in "trade war" are likely not good.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
Very important and not well known argument. If westerners need to sacrifice even a tiny bit of their lifestyle they flip shit. Even if the stuff you sacrifice is arguably useless anyway (not like food or shelter).
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Throw in the fact that the Chinese can control their populace much more effectively with state-owned media, instead of a rambunctious domestic U.S. press, and, yes, I'd say the survivors of the Cultural Revolution, have the edge over the inhabitants of the land of plenty.
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US media not so sure about. On the one hand I think they are often servile when it truly matters (wars, trade). On the other hand people are noticing this and stop listening.
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But that doesn't invalidate your point. China govt has means of control and the US does not.
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Yes, I agree with myself. I just think that China has a better grasp of their people than the USA does. For sure, as you pointed out, the US media is willing to cooperate in support of certain issues, something that I don't fully understand...
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grasp *on* their people, though grasp *of* may also be true.
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But the US also has reserves. Freedom is also a powerful thing, entrepreneurship is not dead yet, US society is much much more open. So I guess things do go back to historical norms but that's plurality not Chinese hegemony.
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Best way to win a war with China: Make it easier for meritocratic, smart Chinese to immigrate to the United States. Collapse it from within.
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Worked for a few hundred years for sure (with Europe, that is).
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