People both on the carnivore diet and on the vegan diet claim to be full of energy (I basically have unlimited energy when I eat mostly meat). Could this be caused by our bodies optimizing for a single type of fuel? Has anyone tried both?
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
I never tried either, so I have low confidence in the following, but: is it possible that there is some selection bias and it’s the other way around, partially – only one who feels very energetic / only in a period in which one feels very energetic, he can maintain a fixed diet?
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Replying to @DellAnnaLuca
That's a good point. From my experience, many who try these "extreme" diets, should they not get significant benefits drop them quickly - why else would you restrict what your eating? There's another selection bias; if you believe that everyone has an optimal diet, people for who
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Replying to @Molson_Hart @DellAnnaLuca
the normal diet is giving them low-energy are more likely to try these drastically different diets.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart @DellAnnaLuca
I might also add that Italians, as far as I can tell, are, compared to other groups better suited for the modern diet. So, if you feel good doing what you're doing, keep doing it?
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Replying to @Molson_Hart @DellAnnaLuca
I agree it is most likely selection bias. I've done full on vegan and felt great. I've done keto and felt great. There's no "source of truth" when it comes to diet. But I will say - and I know this is controversial - our meat industrial complex is not sustainable
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Replying to @oloal @DellAnnaLuca
What you end up sticking with? Great on both diets? Any other interesting nuggets of wisdom from that? You're the first person I've ever come across who's done both. Usually, it's one or the other.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart @DellAnnaLuca
Well to be clear, I never did a carnivore diet. I ate essentially keto/paleo for a while: mostly meats and veges, no carbs. These days I am mostly plant based, which I mostly do for philosophical reasons. But I do eat meat still, and enjoy it. I've loosened up a lot.
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I would LOVE to try vegan keto, but that takes a ton of food prep time. Because I do find carbs can be hard when I don't eat them often and then re-introduce
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Vegan keto, wow. Would be a lot of avocado and olive oil! I've never tried going vegan or even vegetarian. I feel lot better if I'm eating fatty meat. I've looked a lot into the vegan diet. If I have some knocks on it they would be: 1) hard to do without eating processed food
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2) you need b12 supplements. To me, any diet that requires you to basically eat a vitamin is one that should be looked up with skepticism. All vegetables plus eggs though would work.
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