Molson Hart

Lot of issues with that graph, imho: 1. Starts in a recession ends with a boom 2. It’s domestic manufacturing. Things produced domestically have grown in price more than CPI. 3. Much of what we make domestically, we do because of protectionist policies, ie cars.

Yes, not perfect though I think proves the claim we *do* make stuff here. Now, I'd agree we should make more stuff here but I think we all agree on that!

I mean obviously we make stuff here. How could I argue the opposite? But fuck, for real manufacturing gdp to be flat for 20 years in the worlds greatest capitalist country? Something is wrong. And of course look at the employment! Some people can only work those jobs.

Some people don’t agree on that. Free market globalists* like @davidgshort for example. *i have no idea what this word means. It just seemed appropriate

I don’t think we shouldn’t make more stuff. I think government intervention to do so is more likely to cause more problems than solve them

Possible, but cars have been okay no?

Actually, no. US car manufacturers, other than Tesla, which sells a tiny tiny fraction of all cars, have been in retreat for 40 years due to Asian competition.