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    1. Tobias Carlisle‏Verified account @Greenbackd Mar 17
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      S&P 500 off ~29.53% to yesterday's close. Not many great analogs for this decline over the last 70 years. The speed is more like the late stages of 2008 or 1987 from the high. The CAPE is at 22.5x, with the mean around 16.7x.pic.twitter.com/4kzbmCDs7g

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    2. Lyall Taylor‏ @LT3000Lyall Mar 17
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      I discuss here how the CAPE can be highly misleading in a world with buybacks. https://lt3000.blogspot.com/2017/02/why-cape-multiple-is-fatally-flawed.html?m=1 …

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    3. Molson Hart‏ @Molson_Hart Apr 11
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      I'm not an experienced stock guy, but I think the math here is not right. 1. If you're retiring 1 out of 15 shares every year, EPS would compound at 15/14 - 1 = 7.14% per year 2. You say that the market cap and earnings are the same. Therefore, cape for each should be the same.pic.twitter.com/gvnFC199ND

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    4. Molson Hart‏ @Molson_Hart Apr 11
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      3. The mathematical operation you used to get 19.7x is not equivalent to the mathematical operation used to get 15x. Market Cap(today)/Average(Earnings(1), ..., Earnings(10)) =/= Share Price(today)/Average(EPS(1), ..., EPS(10)) Because the # of shares in each year changes.

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    5. Molson Hart‏ @Molson_Hart Apr 11
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      CAPE is not fatally flawed, but I do think that using it across eras with different tax regimes is difficult. CAPEs should be higher after the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, for example, as it lowered the tax rate on C corp earnings.

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      Molson Hart‏ @Molson_Hart Apr 14
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      No response on this?

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        2. Lyall Taylor‏ @LT3000Lyall Apr 14
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          Not much to add other than what is in the article. The impact of buybacks being favoured over dividends is not factored into CAPE multiples, for reasons I discuss in my article. On taxes, ppl would argue pre-tax margins adjust over time to maintain constant ROICs.

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        3. Molson Hart‏ @Molson_Hart Apr 14
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          That doesn’t make sense. That view relies on math errors in the article. Separately, if pretax margins improve to maintain constant ROICs then I’m right that it increases CAPE because price remains constant while earnings drop.

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        1. Lyall Taylor‏ @LT3000Lyall Apr 14
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          And most importantly, all backward looking multiple averages assume that the cost of capital is the same over time, when it is not. The cost of capital can increase and decrease. The cost of capital today is substantially less than it was historically.

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        1. Lyall Taylor‏ @LT3000Lyall Apr 14
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          Another problem is that the composition of the index changes over time, & you can have qualitatively very different companies in index. Apple, Visa, Google, Microsoft, etc, are high quality GLOBAL structural growth business. CAPE assumes all EPS variance is cyclical.

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