Anyone have an opinion on Russia investing? The oil majors pay 10%+ dividends and are growing. Considering they're actually paying shareholders, it doesn't seem like a scam.
Stuff like $SNGSP seems absurdly cheap.
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Replying to @orrdavid
What’s the yield? Basically with Russia the game is: Can I get money back before they nationalize or stop paying foreign shareholders etc
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
For example, this company owns 90% of Russia's pipeline, a robust monopoly business. Trades at 5 times earnings. US ones seem cheap to me at 12 times earnings. And this has less debt: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TRNFP.ME?p=TRNFP.ME&.tsrc=fin-srch …
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Replying to @orrdavid
What’s there to study though? Like...the yields are good. You just pick a number out of the air and say that’s the percent chance they screw foreign shareholders. Run the math and you’re done.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
Study how legit this is. It's been business as normal for a long time. I've heard Russia is uninvestable a couple times. But just because everyone says something doesn't make it so. I have to figure out the incentives of Putin, essentially?
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Replying to @orrdavid
You live in Thailand. All countries like that periodically fuck the foreigners. In a given year there’s a 5-10 chance if that happening. Can he do that with an oil company or pipeline? Sure. He can also turn off oil to Europe whenever he gets in a fight 10% yield, 5-10% chance
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
Thailand has % caps on how much stock foreigners can own. But they've never stolen the equity. I've thought of buying a couple companies, but I can't do it with my US broker account so it's not worth the effort. I understand the incentives in Thailand and would invest here.
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Replying to @orrdavid @Molson_Hart
Same for where I live (Colombia) (and I have invested here). Overly simplistic thinking that all EMs want to screw foreigners and - sadly - is part of why countries with better governance aren't adequately rewarded.
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It’s overly simplistic but unless you want to understand the dynamics of every single country at that time which is not only hard but may be impossible, it’s best to think that way. In the past 20 years, Venezuela, South Africa, Iran (?), Russia, Bolivia, Argentina, the whole
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Middle East (Syria, Libya, Egypt, Arab spring, Yemen), all these countries have majorly disrupted their stock markets and I’m probably missing many.
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