Our model (buy, rehab, refinance to return capital, hold w investors forever) turns out to work well with the Opportunity Zone rules. Bizarrely, a few LA 'hoods, in which we've done ~20 deals, are OZs (bizarre bc they didn't need the help). Starting to look closely at this now.
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Replying to @moseskagan
As I understand it, opportunity zones give a discount on your capital gains when you sell. If your model is to never sell why would opportunity zones work well with your model? Any suggestion of synergy seems like a stretch.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
You're missing several key advantages. Worth googling, but: can defer cap gain tax on sale of asset today for up to 10 yrs and gain is reduced by 10% or so. We can refi out the cash after like 24 months... So have your cash mostly back, don't pay tax for 10yrs *Not tax advice
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Replying to @moseskagan
Your mode is to never sell. Capital gains is not triggered by a refinance. So if I’m missing several key advantages, which are the ones I’m missing that benefit your model?
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
Benefit isn't to my deal... It's to the capital. Can sell an appreciated asset, like your share in a start up that exits, move that money to real estate in LA w/o paying cap gains for 10 years
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Replying to @moseskagan
“Our model (buy, rehab, refinance to return capital, hold w investors forever) turns out to work well with the Opportunity Zone rules.” So this is wrong. And opportunity zones don’t work with startups (as they’re usually defined) AFAIK.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
Think about things from the perspective of a founder or investor in a start-up that exits. If you do nothing, you will pay a huge chunk of your cap gain to the IRS. Pretty much only alternative is op zone investment.
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Replying to @moseskagan
While I underestimated the value of opp zone tax deferral from a startup or stock exit, I still don’t think it works with your model in a meaningful way. Opportunity zones are all about stepping up basis for cap gains or eliminating them. You don’t sell so it doesn’t matter here.
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Replying to @Molson_Hart
I'll mark you down as a "no" for the first deal then :)
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Replying to @Molson_Hart @moseskagan
Most of the people with this level of cap gain are already highly exposed to stocks + have primary residences in tier 1 areas. Risky. Step down is a sweetener to invest in select areas as they diversify and index toward cash flow prop/secondary biz
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