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    1. Model Of Theory‏ @ModelOfTheory Apr 8

      Most people who do not experience qualia never realize that they're missing something that others experience. They often conclude that consciousness is an illusion that they have seen through.

      2 replies 5 retweets 19 likes
    2. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
      Replying to @ModelOfTheory

      How can you "not experience qualia," if they exist?

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    3. Model Of Theory‏ @ModelOfTheory Apr 9
      Replying to @FrankieG_Baby

      Other people have qualia, but you don't. Perhaps I don't understand the question.

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    4. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
      Replying to @ModelOfTheory

      I don't understand how someone can not have qualia.

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    5. Model Of Theory‏ @ModelOfTheory Apr 9
      Replying to @FrankieG_Baby

      A robot could be programmed to have certain responses to stimuli without also experiencing qualia. Perhaps it could act quite similarly to people who have qualia, despite not having qualia. (not clear if this actually is possible)

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    6. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
      Replying to @ModelOfTheory

      But we're talking about people, aren't we? Not hypothetical robots?

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    7. Shredder Rawflesh‏ @RadishHarmers Apr 9
      Replying to @FrankieG_Baby @ModelOfTheory

      We're presumably talking about these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie …

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    8. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
      Replying to @RadishHarmers @ModelOfTheory

      The initial tweet isn't stated hypothetically, though; hence, my questions.

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    9. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
      Replying to @FrankieG_Baby @RadishHarmers @ModelOfTheory

      That is, they are not hypothetical people who might not have qualia; rather, they are actual people, with this problem, whom the author has witnessed or heard of many times.

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      Model Of Theory‏ @ModelOfTheory Apr 9
      Replying to @FrankieG_Baby @RadishHarmers

      Many of my tweets shouldn't be taken entirely literally. The fact that someone might not realize this if they see one of my tweets in isolation is a drawback of this that I had not considered.

      9:34 PM - 9 Apr 2018
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        2. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
          Replying to @ModelOfTheory @RadishHarmers

          Oh, after I scrolled through your timeline, I realized it was probably somewhat in jest, but I was actually curious & wanted to inquire about it anyway. You seemed smart enough to have some ideas about it, & I was hoping maybe you knew a couple p-zombies...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Model Of Theory‏ @ModelOfTheory Apr 9
          Replying to @FrankieG_Baby @RadishHarmers

          There actually was a serious thought that inspired my tweet: perhaps different people's internal experiences can differ in ways that can make them easier or harder to dismiss as illusions, and this could correlate with opinions on phil of mind. This seems unlikely but possible.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
          Replying to @ModelOfTheory @RadishHarmers

          Intriguing; this to me seems prima facie true, unless I misunderstand you. We see it with privilege, when e.g. rich people dismiss the claims & experiences of the poor. Why wouldn't we see the same phenomenon arise from any difference in experience & perception? 1/2

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        5. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
          Replying to @FrankieG_Baby @ModelOfTheory @RadishHarmers

          We know genetics can alter qualia, beyond obvious disorders. The perceived taste of cilantro, for example, is a notable example. If you don't know that, you might think your cilantro-hating friend is being ridiculous, because to you it tastes nothing like soap. 2/2

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        6. Model Of Theory‏ @ModelOfTheory Apr 9
          Replying to @FrankieG_Baby @RadishHarmers

          Critics of qualia typically claim to understand and be able to account for the intuitions that motivate the concept. So if there are such correlates, philosophers of mind don't seem to be aware of them. Perhaps this is not as strong evidence as I'd initially taken it for.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        7. Frankie " 🍔" G.‏ @FrankieG_Baby Apr 9
          Replying to @ModelOfTheory @RadishHarmers

          If we had a qualia-dime for every bit of life & science that philosophers weren't aware of, we'd subjectively experience like kings

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        1. Shredder Rawflesh‏ @RadishHarmers Apr 9
          Replying to @ModelOfTheory @FrankieG_Baby

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          https://twitter.com/RadishHarmers/status/981705302654443520 …

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          Shredder Rawflesh @RadishHarmers
          There's a knee-jerk tendency to take strangers at face value whenever they pop up in your timeline, no matter what they're saying, as long as what they're saying seems foolish; a rush counter to the traditionally theorized Gricean charity one would only summon for a friend.
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