I had to ask about this in person , it isn’t advertised or obvious if you are driving the car. Theft issues are one thing but if this is now standard in cars- you would not even be able to go pick up a surprise gift would you ?if we pretend stalking doesn’t happen 
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It seems someone has to be hurt or killed before we change attitudes to privacy. Pretty sure if the car was stolen that they would remove the tracking ASAP so this is basically spyware on the car. Design for people who see the worst of life, please, please, please!
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Advocates argued years ago that cars need a "private driving mode" at least (
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Yeah, we asked the self-regulatory groups to include geolocation opt-out (at the very least!) as a best practice, but they balked. Hard to understand why that would be controversial.
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it is all about vast sets of data and the power you get with having that - regardless of who can access it and how safe it is and WHY the hell you need what is now a cockpit black box in your car -
There’s money to be made in geolocation tracking. If they aren’t concerned about privacy, I’m betting they also don’t care much about selling that private info to third parties.
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Agreed . We all know that information will be used nefariously. I am surprised it isn’t being used by insurance orgs already to prove driver fault
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It’s funny you say that. In the interest of furthering the discussion, here’s a screenshot of the new info my car is collecting since the last vehicle/app update.pic.twitter.com/CcExjzbJID
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It's worse than you think. https://www.wired.com/2016/08/jeep-hackers-return-high-speed-steering-acceleration-hacks/ … 'They' can find your car on the internet, randomly: if it's broadcasting via modem, it has an IP address. They can ask it questions to see if it's your car. And then they can, in a worst case, yank your steering 90 degrees at 80
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Looks like Sync connect is the system in question. It apparently uses a 4G LTE modem powered by AT&T. One way to disable it may be to find said modem and pull the SIM, but I’m still googling
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But by doing this you lose the ability to get updates, have cops track the car if stolen, remote start/unlock
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And? Why the hell does one wish to remotely unlock their car? Cops never do anything with stolen vehicles as is. If the system can’t update itself without having a tracking feature built in, it doesn’t deserve to exist.
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So many comments on here fail to see the privacy issues if your threat is in your home . Or even if you don’t , this type of spying is violating and wrong
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Wait, with this app can the car be remote started?
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Starts can also be scheduled and you can remotely lock and unlock the vehicle, according to their documentation
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Yes. Plus location , fuel and tire pressurepic.twitter.com/Xflmc7ut0M
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Did you look at how to enable said app? Did you need VIN? Also enable via service etc? Pretty loud message with no details. Please provide how it enables someone to track you without your permission.
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Looking at other replies looks like it is similar to what I can do yet I have to enable via my vehicle and then use app after enabled via vehicle. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Hi . The issue is that anyone with access to the car can scan the vin and use the app. Therefore you can track each other. Lock the car etc. it’s unnecessary imo. My ex doesn’t need to know where I am just because we share a car for kids
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Scan the VIN? The one clearly visible through the windshield? Holy shit am I about to have a lot of fun clowning Ford owners around me.
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No it’s in the door and you have to be in the vehicle and sync it to accept. Could be ways around that
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FWIW, the Acura app is similar.
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BMW requires a bit more but essentially the same risks apply.
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You can disable the tracking (for the user-accessible apps) on a BMW from inside the car.
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