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    Justin‏ @MindsFiction Mar 6

    Crypto is considered property by the IRS, money by the Treasury department, commodities by the CFTC, and securities by the SEC. 🤦 In before CDC declares crypto a pandemic.

    11:06 AM - 6 Mar 2018
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      1. Elemer David‏ @elemerdavid Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction @_Kevin_Pham

        Next: FAA restrictions apply when it’s on the way to the moon 🚀 🤪

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      1. zodlogic‏ @zodlogic Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        and programmers consider it merely software. replacing tons of bureaucracy & censorship with a small bit of elegant, transparent, executable code

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      2. Jeffrey Levy‏ @Jeffrey_Levy Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction @cryptobully

        Serious question: If people pay their crypto taxes what happens if characterization of crypto changes in the future if the government figures out how they want to classify crypto? Do people end up with a refund because they overpaid or need to pay more for underreporting?

        2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony Mar 7
        Replying to @Jeffrey_Levy @MindsFiction @cryptobully

        That would depend on who is changing the characterization (Congress through a statute? Treasury through a regulation? IRS through a notice or revenue ruling?), and (possibly) if the change is intended to be retroactive.

        1 reply 1 retweet 4 likes
      4. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony Mar 7
        Replying to @DipierroAnthony @Jeffrey_Levy and

        I should add that the original tweet is misleading at best and plain incorrect at worst, though. If you want to know how your specific situation should be characterized, you really need advice from someone who knows about your specific situation.

        1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
      5. Jeffrey Levy‏ @Jeffrey_Levy Mar 7
        Replying to @DipierroAnthony @MindsFiction @cryptobully

        It’s really about figuring out how they plan to treat cryptos. The IRS hasn’t offered guidance for a few years. The SEC, CFTC, FinCEN and states have been most active lately, but many of these conflict. Existing laws don’t work. Crypto is a new asset class with trinary properties

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      6. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony Mar 7
        Replying to @Jeffrey_Levy @MindsFiction @cryptobully

        Existing laws don't work perfectly, but the IRS can only work within the statutes that were passed by Congress, and they don't give much leeway to the IRS in dealing with crypto. That said, I suspect Congress would be more likely to make things worse than better if they did act.

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      7. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony Mar 7
        Replying to @DipierroAnthony @Jeffrey_Levy and

        Personally I think that IRS Notice 2014-21 got things right about treatment as property which is not a currency. I didn't agree with their answer about the treatment of mining income, but a notice doesn't govern how a court will ultimately rule on that issue.

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      8. Anthony DiPierro‏ @DipierroAnthony Mar 7
        Replying to @DipierroAnthony @Jeffrey_Levy and

        It would be nice to have an exemption from needing to report every purchase made using Bitcoin as a capital gain/loss, but this would be best handled by Congress, for instance by exempting the first $5000 of cryptocurrency gains from capital gains reporting.

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      9. Jeffrey Levy‏ @Jeffrey_Levy Mar 7
        Replying to @DipierroAnthony @MindsFiction @cryptobully

        I listened to @laurashin’s podcast on crypto taxes. Two options made more sense. Treat it like forex where transactions under $200 are tax exempt. The crypto tax and fairness act proposed to exempt transactions under $600. I like the the forex method for now cause it’s in use.

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      2. johnnymcdevitt‏ @johnnymcdevitt Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        In before naacp calls it racist

        1 reply 1 retweet 11 likes
      3. $CryptoKeeper‏ @WatchWannaDo14 Mar 6
        Replying to @johnnymcdevitt @MindsFiction

        https://www.salon.com/2017/12/27/is-bitcoin-enabling-alt-right-extremists …

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      2. The Crypto Dog 📈‏ @TheCryptoDog Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        Just wait until the DEA weighs in...pic.twitter.com/ROhGUUWC7g

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      1.  ⚡MarcDW [nowallet.org] ⚡‏ @metamarcdw Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        INB4 DEA declares it a virtual controlled substance

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      1. Will Campbell‏ @Sufuninja Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        Old laws will not work here.

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      1.  ❌ Kathy Owrey  ❌‏ @kathy_owrey Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction @_Kevin_Pham

        The IRS likes to have their fingers and all the pots.

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      2. Will Campbell‏ @Sufuninja Mar 6
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        Looks like we have a NEW asset class. "New" as in like we need "new" laws to work for a technology that has never existed before...

        3 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Eric‏ @2ez28u Mar 6
        Replying to @Sufuninja @MindsFiction

        After asking for guns regulations now it s crypto time ,,, We see a regrettions with all what was take for granted now, rape,gays,homo, racist, gender, violence etc grow badly milleniums need to learn how to regulated them selves 😂 or the state will take care of it ,,,pic.twitter.com/2rsvhSkQ0L

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      4. Eric‏ @2ez28u Mar 6
        Replying to @2ez28u @Sufuninja @MindsFiction

        I mean it s all going back to middle age far west and intolerant people,

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