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    1. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      There's an interesting split in thought on censorship and concentration of power. I would expect the same people who condemn Twitter censorship to condemn Trump's centralizing of power, but we see the opposite. I don't care about Twitter and fear Trump. Others are the opposite

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    2. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      2/ I must admit I don't really understand the other viewpoint on this. It seems like an internal contradiction to me, which means I'm probably misunderstanding. But I'll explain my view.

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    3. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      3/ Censorship by twitter or facebook or google is mostly irrelevant to me. Lots of other platforms. Those companies are powerful but they don't control a military, can't put you in jail, can't prevent your voice from being heard by those who want to hear it. Damage is limited.

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    4. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      4/ Similarly, if an FBI agent, or police officer, or attorney general commits illegal or unethical acts to hurt Trump, that's bad, but not an existential problem. None of those individuals or even groups can actually change the country. There are so many levels of appeals.

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    5. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      5/ In contrast, Trump himself can unilaterally direct the military, can unilaterally place people in indefinite detention or expel them from the country. The checks on this are very weak; Trump can even pardon himself of most crimes.

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    6. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      6/ When thinking about attack surfaces, Facebook, or the attorney general, or a dozen FBI agents are very minor, even trivial threats to our democracy. The power of the president in the US means that the president is a much much greater potential threat.

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    7. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7

      @NickSzabo4 I'm trying to avoid all tribalism and even all specific talking points in this thread. Genuinely curious about how you think about the attack surface of a democracy. I think I'm applying very similar thinking to your arguments about Bitcoin's governance in this thread

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      Justin‏ @MindsFiction Sep 7
      Replying to @AriDavidPaul @NickSzabo4

      If you replaced Trump with the abuse & over reach of presidential power, I fully agree with you. Example I see no clear distinction between Bush/Obama. Both engaged in violent regime change. Yet so far the real estate agent is peaceful relative to predecessors. Syria, N.Korea

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        2. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7
          Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4

          Obama and Bush didn’t seek to dismantle the checks on their power in such blatant ways. Not saying they didn’t do it all, but nothing like this.

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        3. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Sep 7
          Replying to @AriDavidPaul @NickSzabo4

          There are no checks, examples. Bush admin lied about Iraq, faced no consequences. Obama toppled Libya without a declaration of war from Congress. Bush/Obama allowed mass surveillance on citizens. Legal checks failed. But decentralized money & opinion on social media may work.

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        4. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7
          Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4

          False equivalency. Checks on lying and mass surveillance are trivial compared to checks on a president (possibly) criminally meddling in his own election, firing those investigating his conduct, and threatening to pardon himself for those crimes.

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        5. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Sep 7
          Replying to @AriDavidPaul @NickSzabo4

          Ari I love you man, and know you mean well. The lie was not trivial, justified a war which consumed something north of 400k people. There must be accountability here. Centralization of unaccountable power is the problem. Both with the Presidency & the unchanging bureaucracies.

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        6. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7
          Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4

          I'm not arguing against accountability for everything. I'm arguing that it makes sense to differentiate different scales of problems. Some are existential threats to US democracy, others are not.

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        7. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Sep 7
          Replying to @AriDavidPaul @NickSzabo4

          I see pedantic lobbyists who call themselves the Press coordinating with unelected bureaucrats to remove a democratically elected president. If successful likely the end of the American experiment. What do you see?

          2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
        8. Ari Paul‏Verified account @AriDavidPaul Sep 7
          Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4

          “Coordinating to remove” ...you mean impeachment? Which can only be done by democratically elected representatives? Seems like you’re contradicting yourself. If he’s impeached, how is that any less of the democratic will of the people?

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        9. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Sep 7
          Replying to @AriDavidPaul @NickSzabo4

          Justin Retweeted Ari Paul

          We have lobbyists who claim to be Press. They are fabricating many false narratives, sometimes fed by bureaucrats, to manipulate public opinion. This is the crisis I see in regards to your vague claim "threats to US democracy" Seems no good faith here.https://mobile.twitter.com/AriDavidPaul/status/1038130439897137153 …

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          Ari PaulVerified account @AriDavidPaul
          Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4
          I'm not arguing against accountability for everything. I'm arguing that it makes sense to differentiate different scales of problems. Some are existential threats to US democracy, others are not.
          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
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