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    Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 23

    Communist and socialist are the least rational among us. Eyes closed to historical outcomes. They risk all members of society to attain a perceived sense of virtuousness.

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      2. Bill Stewart‏ @BillStewart415 Aug 23
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        That's as rational as claiming that all capitalism is Ayn Rand's Morally Pure Capitalism, risking all members of your own society and others by pretending that capitalism is always virtuous and never starts wars or "invests" in politicians. Look at the Middle East to see it work!

        2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      3. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 23
        Replying to @BillStewart415

        Virtue is an action that costs you personally, has nothing to do with markets. Risk revenue, reputation, or safety. Capitalism is the reason billions have been rised out of poverty, & feeds the world. Communism/socialism has killed over 100 million & impoverished many more.

        2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
      4. Fin‏ @Bhimbhambhoum Aug 23
        Replying to @MindsFiction @BillStewart415

        Capitalism is doomed to failure. We can not grow indefinitely on a planet with finite resources. It was thought in a world without limit. Our oil resources are. And the enormous tensions that it generates will soon burst forth.

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      5. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 23
        Replying to @Bhimbhambhoum @BillStewart415

        Malthusian have made your very argument for over two hundred years & have been wrong the entire time. Unfortunately they did starve many millions. Dangerous ideology. Technology continues to accelerate giving us more options. Populations are declining in developed countries.

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      6. Fin‏ @Bhimbhambhoum Aug 23
        Replying to @MindsFiction @BillStewart415

        Malthus had not foreseen the power of globalized oil and the non-linear aspect of climate. Cissor effect. Free trade ideology based on fossil fuels is a total nonsense and leads us to short-term loss on a global scale.

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      7. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 23
        Replying to @Bhimbhambhoum @BillStewart415

        Again technology provides solutions here, nuclear & solar being the obvious ones. Electric cars are also becoming affordable. Markets not bureaucrats, yield innovative solutions. The scarcity is only in your mind.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8. Fin‏ @Bhimbhambhoum Aug 23
        Replying to @MindsFiction @BillStewart415

        http://www.donellameadows.org/wp-content/userfiles/Limits-to-Growth-digital-scan-version.pdf …

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      9. Fin‏ @Bhimbhambhoum Aug 23
        Replying to @Bhimbhambhoum @MindsFiction @BillStewart415

        The available studies (MIT) show for the moment that nuclear power and renewable energies will not be enough to prevent a drastic collapse of human civilization by 2100.

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      2. Eli Destoop‏ @elidestoop Aug 24
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        Eyes closed to the historical reality in which socialism was born...

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      3. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 24
        Replying to @elidestoop

        There will always be those willing to use violence to create utopias. They always summon hell instead.

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      4. Eli Destoop‏ @elidestoop Aug 24
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        Indeed. But utopias breed on misery. Social corrections (of capitalism) mitigate that risk.

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      5. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 24
        Replying to @elidestoop

        Local communities should take responsibility for those down on their luck. Rather than outsourcing it to the federal government. Because it creates a diffusion of responsibility Local community can better address needs than a large bureaucracy (socialism).

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Eli Destoop‏ @elidestoop Aug 24
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        If you're a coal miner in 1850, your local community won't help much - they're all 'down on their luck'. Small is beautifull, but for them big was useful (socialism).

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      7. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 24
        Replying to @elidestoop

        Regulation to mitigate risk isn't socialism. Socialism is Venezuela and its starving. Zimbawa and its perpetual hell. Cuba, SA etc... Even Europe with its socialism-lite has gone into a dark age. They no longer innovate. And much of the continent is becoming third world.

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      8. Eli Destoop‏ @elidestoop Aug 24
        Replying to @MindsFiction

        You're right. I'm confusing socialism (social ownership) with social democracy (correcting for social justice). In Europe they're often used as synonyms.

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      2. PhilosopherKing‏ @ridethesynthesi Aug 23
        Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4

        What’s the opposite of capitalism?

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      3. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 23
        Replying to @ridethesynthesi @NickSzabo4

        Slavery.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. kotso‏ @spirkons Aug 24
        Replying to @MindsFiction @ridethesynthesi @NickSzabo4

        The slave trade was a legit market closed by the government

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      5. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 24
        Replying to @spirkons @ridethesynthesi @NickSzabo4

        Securing human rights is the only vindication for having a monopoly on violence. Maybe there are other less obvious reasons as well.

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      2. Keith krieger‏ @Regeirkhtiek Aug 23
        Replying to @MindsFiction @NickSzabo4

        Your sentence is brilliant. It can be used in any situation. Replace communist and socialist with your favourite religions or Anti gun control or gun control or really any buzzword of the day.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Justin‏ @MindsFiction Aug 23
        Replying to @Regeirkhtiek @NickSzabo4

        Disagree. The historical back testing no longer works. Religions have a track record of success because they are evolutionary systems that provide survival heuristics. They also provide common morality, creating mutual trust & enable scalable societies.

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