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Former Congressional candidate for #CA29 #Progressive It's We The People, not we the few #weareallhuman Personal @evo7ve

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    1. Michael R Guzik‏Verified account @MichaelRGuzik Jan 8

      I have a hard time understanding how a religion would take up a position that says that only certain people are welcome. Doesn't that go against God? #UMC #religion #LGBTQ #WhyIFight for #The29th #CA29 #unitedmethodistchurch #unitedmethodist #resisthttps://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-methodist-church-splits-lgbt-united-20200103-7vbcxyqivjgljiithuwn4iqnia-story.html …

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    2. Keith Mcilwain‏ @KeithMcilwain Jan 8
      Replying to @MichaelRGuzik

      You misunderstand UM teaching. Everyone is indeed welcome; that is the case in every UM congregation on earth. But, obviously, not everyone is ordained clergy. We have the right to discern that & to not ordain those who are unrepentant of sinful behaviors.

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    3. Michael R Guzik‏Verified account @MichaelRGuzik Jan 8
      Replying to @KeithMcilwain

      What sinful behavior are you speaking of?

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    4. Keith Mcilwain‏ @KeithMcilwain Jan 8
      Replying to @MichaelRGuzik

      In this case, the Church believes that homosexual practice is incompatible with Christian teaching. The UMC agrees with the broad ecumenical consensus of classical orthodox Christianity for the past 2000 years. Surely it's fair to expect UM clergy to follow UM teaching.

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    5. Keith Mcilwain‏ @KeithMcilwain Jan 8
      Replying to @KeithMcilwain @MichaelRGuzik

      But, to your original point, you said that the Church doesn't welcome everyone. That is entirely false. Everyone is welcome, but, obviously, not everyone is ordained clergy.

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    6. Michael R Guzik‏Verified account @MichaelRGuzik Jan 8
      Replying to @KeithMcilwain

      You're still excluding people based on who they are. That includes not recognizing gay marriage. It's the same as if the church said women can not be clergy. Where does the Bible say members of the LGBTQ community can not be clergy?

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    7. Keith Mcilwain‏ @KeithMcilwain Jan 8
      Replying to @MichaelRGuzik

      You’re getting off track. The point is that, contrary to your initial tweet, everyone IS welcome. Surely you don’t expect the Church (ANY Church) to ordain anyone who wants ordained. The Church has the right to discern appropriate candidates.

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    8. Keith Mcilwain‏ @KeithMcilwain Jan 8
      Replying to @KeithMcilwain @MichaelRGuzik

      And as a politician you surely affirm the right of religious groups to practice their faith, Christian or any other, even if you disagree with it. The UMC does indeed welcome everyone, though we don’t ordain as clergy those who disagree with the Church. That’s fair.

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      Michael R Guzik‏Verified account @MichaelRGuzik Jan 8
      Replying to @KeithMcilwain

      I am 100% for separation of church and state

      6:14 PM - 8 Jan 2020
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        1. Keith Mcilwain‏ @KeithMcilwain Jan 8
          Replying to @MichaelRGuzik

          Good! So am I.

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