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    1. Rob Bensinger‏ @robbensinger 15 Nov 2014
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      New post on LessWrong / transhumanists / effective altruists and veganism: http://goo.gl/hjaLcK 

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    2. Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger A deontological prohibition against increasing demand for meat seems like it might forbid a lot of economic activity.

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    3. Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger Difference between direct and indirect effects on demand probably smaller than e.g. species differences in calories per life.

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    4. Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger I think that a lot of support for deontological prohibitions comes from intuitions that require the violence to be "personal".

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    5. Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger With meat eating, it's not as though you're hurting the animal you're eating. The harm is statistical.

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    6. Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger That doesn't make it less real from a utilitarian pov, but from a utilitarian pov, it's a small issue as per Paul C's points.

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    7. Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger I can wrap my mind around deontological prohibitions against personal violence or law-breaking,

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      Member Of Species‏ @MemberOfSpecies 15 Nov 2014
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      @robbensinger but not against contributing causally to undesirable phenomena that don't affect the utilitarian calculation much.

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        1. Rob Bensinger‏ @robbensinger 15 Nov 2014
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          .@MemberOfSpecies Cf. slavery/meat-eating analogy. If slavery helps me do EA, is legal, is common, I don't attack anyone, etc., is it OK?

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        2. Brett Hall‏ @ToKTeacher 15 Nov 2014
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          @robbensinger @MemberOfSpecies That can't run: slavery *cannot* be done without "attacking" someone.

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        1. Rob Bensinger‏ @robbensinger 15 Nov 2014
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          .@MemberOfSpecies And I'm not picking 'slavery' to score points. I'm genuinely uncertain in both cases, and for mostly the same reasons.

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        1. Rob Bensinger‏ @robbensinger 15 Nov 2014
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          .@MemberOfSpecies Paul's points do make me unsure. Can veg be cheap / swapped for donations? Meat humane? LW cuddlier? Really need answers.

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