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@Meaningness I've never been able to understand this perspective; "ethical" (in the sense used here) just seems like it means "shoulded".

@Meaningness (And maybe there's a different sense of "ethical" where it refers more to things you wouldn't already do out of base motives.)

@MemberOfSpecies Maybe… maybe that points at the concept of a lower bound of ethical adequacy, with the zone of freedom above.

@Meaningness When people ask "how ethical should I be", maybe they're modeling themselves as acting on base motives by default,

@Meaningness but being pulled in other directions like altruism or rule-following by moral reflection,

@Meaningness and asking how strongly they should be so pulled before it causes them to overshoot the ethical-philosophically best action.

@Meaningness E.g. "How ethical [pulled toward altruistic] should [according to utilitarianism] I [who am inclined to be egoistic] be?"

@MemberOfSpecies I think that’s probably right except the [according to utilitarianism].