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@GrumplessGrinch The argument being made here is "certain a priori considerations should cause us to expect more unspecified bad things".

@MemberOfSpecies I've never had an a priori consideration, so I guess I'm missing the premise of this argument.

@GrumplessGrinch I meant prior to thinking about concrete bad effects.

@MemberOfSpecies Okay. But you have to actually talk about what those consideration are. All I've seen is handwaving.

@GrumplessGrinch If you're not impressed with the considerations given, that's where to pursue the disagreement.

@MemberOfSpecies There haven't been any.

@GrumplessGrinch I'm referring to @nydwracu's arguments, which I don't necessarily endorse, about preconditions for civilization

@MemberOfSpecies @nydwracu All of his arguments so far can be applied to literally all social change of any sort.