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@admittedlyhuman @themattsimpson Even when their rights are violated very rarely in retaliation for non-rights-violating misbehavior?

@MemberOfSpecies @themattsimpson that makes sense from a utilitarian standpoint, but it's not workable as a social norm.

@MemberOfSpecies @themattsimpson we side with the bullied b/c it's better overall than siding with the bullies and hairs are hard to split.

@admittedlyhuman @themattsimpson The hypothetical was about large amounts of non-line-crossing bullying vs. small amounts of line-crossing.

@MemberOfSpecies @themattsimpson by "bullying" I of course meant "rights-violating behavior"

@MemberOfSpecies @themattsimpson classical liberalism allows for dirty play within your rights, yes, and that sucks, yes.

@admittedlyhuman @themattsimpson "Allows for" is changing the subject again; the issue isn't whether to allow it but whether to blame.

@MemberOfSpecies @themattsimpson you can blame someone for dirty play, but not for having their rights violated in response to dirty play.