I continue to be confused about whether/when you're allowed to draw causal arrows from mathematical to physical facts.
@Meaningness "The fact that 5*5=25 and the fact that the room is 5x5 meters, together, cause the room to be 25 square meters."
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@MemberOfSpecies Oh… weird… “Cause” seems an exceptionally vague and problematic notion, but fwiw on the whole I’d say that isn’t causal. -
@Meaningness I guess I'm trying to figure out whether there's a principled reason for saying such things aren't causal. - 2 more replies
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@MemberOfSpecies@Meaningness I separate causation and identity. The room's 5x5ness is an aspect of its 25m^2ness and vice-versa. -
@MemberOfSpecies@Meaningness I try to reserve causation for state evolution. For X to cause Y, X must be able to exist antecedently to Y.
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