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@UF_blog If the claim is "political fragmentation may hurt the average person, but it helps the few particular groups I care about",

@MemberOfSpecies It's not quite that because "a politics helping the average person" is essentially hallucinatory. You get communism instead

@UF_blog The strongest defense of exit/fragmentation, to me, would be something like

@MemberOfSpecies The key point I think you might still be missing: Fragmentation is the SUBSTITUTE for universalist argumentation.

@MemberOfSpecies "How do we make a good universalist case for fragmentation" is getting it wrong (and will always fail, because entropy).

@UF_blog Or in the sense of "if someone dies or suffers, it's morally undesirable regardless of the person's family/nation/thede/etc"?

@MemberOfSpecies If the enemy suffers or dies it's undesirable? No one thinks that, unless anomalous religious fanatics.

@MemberOfSpecies "The universe is bad because animals eat each other" -- there are actually people who think such thoughts have some value.