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@vihartvihart @simplic10 what's the hormone responsible for making people grow religious lumps on their chests and hair in places?

@drethelin @vihartvihart come now, steelman the claim

@simplic10 @vihartvihart there are too many different things currently meant by both terms to really steel man it

@simplic10 @vihartvihart maybe we'll get cargo cult genders, maybe it'll be taboo to enforce gendered laws, maybe folk will be lay-gendered

@simplic10 @vihartvihart maybe l Ron Hubbard will start his own gender that costs thousands of dollars to join

@simplic10 @vihartvihart so if we taboo gender and religion from this conversation, what are we actually talking about? I'm not sure.

@drethelin @vihartvihart I think it boils down to norms. Tradeoff btw fully individualist and two-sizes-fit-all collective sexual norms.

@simplic10 @vihartvihart that's fine if you think gender is all or mostly norms but I think it's >50% not