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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 7 May 2018
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      Definition of “rationalism” from the Eggplant book draft. If you identify as a rationalist, I’m curious whether you find this accurate, and if not, why not?pic.twitter.com/2cvo7478fj

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    2. Catherine Olsson‏ @catherineols 7 May 2018
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      IME with CFAR rationality, "ultimate" is giving the wrong impression - it sounds too universal. I'd argue that CFAR endorses a criterion *schema* around "what you personally want", but it's intended for everyone to substitute x=(you personally), after which it's highly subjective

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    3. Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST‏ @PereGrimmer 7 May 2018
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      I need a meta cfar, to help me construct an agentic self with ranked desires susceptible to an EV analysis :/

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 7 May 2018
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      I kind of thought CFAR taught methods for doing exactly this? (I have only third-hand knowledge of what CFAR does, though)

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        2. Catherine Olsson‏ @catherineols 7 May 2018
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          Catherine Olsson Retweeted Catherine Olsson

          Totally does. See https://twitter.com/catherineols/status/993613465494343680 …. CFAR is not "optimization for abstract agents with ranked desires". It's "doing slightly better at the things you want, for real messy humans". IMO you're a pile of squabbling sub-agents. CFAR helps them fight less and collaborate more.

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          A raw attempt at scaffolding, then answer: You're a human. You're not an abstract mathematical agent, but if you were, you'd have a single goal and you'd maximize it to the best of your ability. You sometimes act like you have goals. Other times, you act inconsistently.
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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 7 May 2018
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          This is good! (And it’s what I’m calling “sensible” rather than “rational” for the sake of the discussion—upper left quadrant in the 2x2 diagram)

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        1. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ 8 May 2018
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          I'd say that CFAR, despite having rationality right in the name, is not rationalist, but only has its historical genesis in rationality. If you look at what they do now, they are very metasystematically savvy and subtle

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        1. Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST‏ @PereGrimmer 7 May 2018
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          I'm not sure; would be interested to learn more if so.

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