That was explicit in early LW, I believe? Some LW community members have moved beyond it… But, when would you say Bayesian decision theory does *not* give an optimal result?
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Replying to @Meaningness
you're confusing "defining what it means to be optimal" with "giving a Weird Trick to be optimal"
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @Meaningness
Yudkowsky is arguing for the existence of truth, the existence of a right thing to do
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @Meaningness
the sequences don't say "all you need is Bayes", they say "there is no known procedure you can follow that makes your reasoning defensible"
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman
This seems consistent with my saying “Some rationalisms specify the trick; others insist there must be one, but that it is not currently knowable.”
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Replying to @Meaningness
he warns specifically against putting your trust in clever tricks! you're arguing with a caricature man
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Replying to @Meaningness
I could tell you "read the sequences" but here's where I was quoting fromhttps://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wustx45CPL5rZenuo/no-safe-defense-not-even-science …
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @Meaningness
I don't remember what to google to get the bit about the guy who focuses on how to cut rather than cutting and so is a bad swordsman
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @Meaningness
but that made a huge impression on me and is basically the direct opposite of what you're saying here
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So, do you object to my first paragraph as well, or just to the last one?
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Replying to @Meaningness
so long as you're clear that the "criterion" you're referring to is the *actual facts of the matter*
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @Meaningness
the first paragraph is a bizarre framing that makes it seem like you don't really understand, even though it's technically accurate
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