In other words, even the most evolved adherents of mainstream Buddhism will not have agency over the contents of their beliefs (i.e. need to skip parts of what is roughly Kegan's stage 4)?
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Replying to @Plinz
Stage 4, if I understand Kegan correctly, just means you have a system. Any system. It can be completely bogus. The Buddhist systems are completely bogus, imo.
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Replying to @Meaningness
Perhaps I don't understand Kegan correctly, but imho stage 4 marks the departure from externally assimilated beliefs to internally constructed ones, and that necessary involves the exploration of the criteria for valid beliefs? (Not that I want to discuss Kegan exegetics here.)
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Replying to @Plinz
Oh, I see, interesting! Yes, I can see how you could interpret it that way. But my understanding is that generally the system you adopt at stage 4 is one that is publicly available.
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Replying to @Meaningness
Do you think that there are multiple valid epistemologies (i.e. systems to establish truth that lead to different truths but are equally valid)? And don't you think that public availability is incidental instead of relevant?
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Replying to @Plinz
I don’t think there are any valid epistemologies—not in the strong sense rationalism wants. And, I do think public availability is critical. Individual minds are no powerful enough to go more than a tiny bit beyond what’s already understood.
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Replying to @bloodyquantum @Plinz
New understandings emerge from a gradual accumulation of small insights from many people. Sometimes suddenly pieces fit together, and there is a dramatic advance—but it depends on that prior incremental improvement.
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Sometimes a genius pulls the pieces together. But even then, simultaneous invention shows that the genius stood on the shoulder of thousands of pretty smart people.
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Newton was a genius—but Leibnitz invented calculus mostly-independently at the same time. And Newton’s PhD thesis advisor developed much more of the theory than is generally known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Barrow …
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I wrote about how new understandings emerge, and what conditions make that more or less likely, here:https://meaningness.com/metablog/upgrade-your-cargo-cult …
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