Exactly! And therefore flat truth is also unnecessary (as well as unavailable in practice at minimum)
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Replying to @Meaningness @simplic10
flat truth is a limit which we can and do usefully approach closely in practice even if we can't get infinitely close.
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @simplic10
It is *sometimes* useful to approach that ideal. That is extremely uncommon. Just about everything we know that matters, that makes our way of life possible, is extremely far from flat truth. And that is just fine! It works! There is no problem here!
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a lot of what we deal with gets pretty close. your examples have been "not infinitely close", not "extremely far"
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if I want to find my keys, they're pretty much on my desk, even if on a molecular level the boundaries aren't totally sharp
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and finding my keys is something I do all the time, in practice, and it is useful for my everyday life
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Replying to @admittedlyhuman @simplic10
Right! This is exactly the point. You don’t need flat truth in order to take practical action.
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Replying to @Meaningness @simplic10
my point is that the location of my keys extremely closely approximates flat truth and my practical action treats it as though it is
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more specifically, it is not "extremely uncommon" to have anything that's not "extremely far" from flat truth, as you claimed
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Mmph. I will withdraw “extremely far from” on the grounds that there is no metric.
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I think what I meant was “you could expend an extraordinary amount of effort attempting to make it more precise, without much if any gain in usefulness”
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