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David Chapman

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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      they're habitual truths, which require a little more careful statement to be true in the sort of way you hate

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      Generally, useful truths can’t be fully specified even in principle. And, the effort of fully specifying them, when that is possible, is not warranted. So attempting to do that is instrumentally irrational.

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    3. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      this is like the ravens thing. infinitesimally small things are infinitesimally small. infinite precision is not actually necessary

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      Exactly! And therefore flat truth is also unnecessary (as well as unavailable in practice at minimum)

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    5. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      flat truth is a limit which we can and do usefully approach closely in practice even if we can't get infinitely close.

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      It is *sometimes* useful to approach that ideal. That is extremely uncommon. Just about everything we know that matters, that makes our way of life possible, is extremely far from flat truth. And that is just fine! It works! There is no problem here!

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    7. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      nah

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    8. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      a lot of what we deal with gets pretty close. your examples have been "not infinitely close", not "extremely far"

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    9. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      if I want to find my keys, they're pretty much on my desk, even if on a molecular level the boundaries aren't totally sharp

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    10. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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      and finding my keys is something I do all the time, in practice, and it is useful for my everyday life

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      Right! This is exactly the point. You don’t need flat truth in order to take practical action.

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        2. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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          my point is that the location of my keys extremely closely approximates flat truth and my practical action treats it as though it is

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        3. Fakey Fakeson‏ @admittedlyhuman 21 Apr 2018
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          more specifically, it is not "extremely uncommon" to have anything that's not "extremely far" from flat truth, as you claimed

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