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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      There are almost no just-plain-true (or false) facts in the macroscopic natural world. We’ve engineered our environment to support deductive reasoning, which doesn’t work in nature. Text from Elijah Millgram’s _Hard Truths_pic.twitter.com/e6HLMSjpb3

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    2. 𝕵𝐚𝐲𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐚‏ @Jayarava 21 Apr 2018
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      And yet, David, I bet you still refrain from jumping off tall building and eating poison.

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      Right. The point here is that many things are “true enough” or “more-or-less true” or “true for this particular purpose.” The false dichotomy is between “really truly true” and “meaningless” or “hopelessly vague.”

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    4. 𝕵𝐚𝐲𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐚‏ @Jayarava 21 Apr 2018
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      I think this might be more interesting for me if I knew who "the Rationalists" are/were or if I'd ever seen anyone make the point you are arguing against. 🤷‍♂️ Most of the people I know are irrationalists.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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      Rationalists: Plato, Kant, Russell, Gödel. Almost all 20th century analytic philosophers. Most working scientists (but inconsistently). On your other point: yes, and I’ll take rationalists over irrationalists any time!

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        2. Paolo G. Giarrusso‏ @Blaisorblade 21 Apr 2018
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          For modern rationalists, that's almost a strawman. Rationalists are informed by their science, and modern science understands uncertainty much better, not just in the social domain but also in life sciences. And we can *reason* on uncertainty with statistics.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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          “True enough for this purpose” is an ontological matter, not an epistemic one. The issue is not uncertainty, it is indefiniteness. Rationalists frequently make this move, of changing the subject to uncertainty (for which they have a story) when the topic is indefiniteness.

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        2. 𝕵𝐚𝐲𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐚‏ @Jayarava 21 Apr 2018
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          So dead guys?

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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          Oh, no, plenty of them still around. I’m arguing with a persistent one on twitter right now.

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        2. conputer dipshit‏ @davidcrespo 22 Apr 2018
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          I love the original tweet but I think it is deeply wrong to characterize Plato and Kant in this way. especially Plato

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Apr 2018
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          Hmm. For Plato, I guess the issue would be how his “participation in a Form” was supposed to work, which we don’t know. The theory of Forms overall seems designed to make everything clear-cut, though?

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 21 Apr 2018
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          Also on your other point: I think it’s time to found a Buddhist sect that requires that you pass a calculus exam before you are admitted.

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        3. 𝕵𝐚𝐲𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐯𝐚‏ @Jayarava 21 Apr 2018
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          I passed a calculus exam once, in 1985. Never again. No exams in my Buddhist sect.

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        2. JT Tyler‏ @JTT329 22 Apr 2018
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          Godel didn’t believe in empirical science. He believed it could only predict outcomes of experiments, but contained no ‘real truths’ about the world. He thought the laws of logic and the results of mathematical intuition were the only things that can be called true.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Apr 2018
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          Yes. That is a species of rationalism, I take it? Particularly in the historically earlier sense in which rationalism was opposed to empiricism.

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