Insightful thread from @alicemazzy.
I’d add: it’s not about “values.” Those are empty signifiers used merely to construct post hoc rationalizations.
Significant instead is the texture of personal experience: different according to social position.
https://twitter.com/alicemazzy/status/969304258947567622 …
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Nobody has any “values.” This is a complete myth; one that does more than anything to drive the destructive culture war. (Anyone know of a good write-up of this? If not, I guess I ought to do it; the confusion seems near-universal.)
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Replying to @Meaningness
what are "values" and how are those distinct from values?
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Oh, I was unclear. Those were just sneer quotes. There’s no difference.
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is the sneer caused by the culture-war loaded use of the word values? e.g. "values voters" etc. or are you dipping a toe into some post-nihilism here?
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Well, the culture war usage (on both sides) is a particularly harmful manifestation. But “values” is a folk-psychological notion that doesn’t correspond to anything in reality, and is actively misleading in understanding motivations.
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This depends partly on pre-replication-crisis results (especially situationism), but see http://humancond.org/analysis/social/attitude_behavior_gap … My take is that "attitudes" or values are adopted for social signalling rather than as basis for behavior.
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But behavior patterns such as pro-natalist early reproduction vs. college/delayed reproduction are as
@Meaningness has noted have something to do with "family values". Generally values are trotted out to support political positions, and are often quite vague. "Fairness", "family"1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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Yes, my take is that “values” are used (1) to signal personal characteristics, particularly tribe; (2) to retrospectively justify action that did not meaningfully involve them at the time; (3) to construct a coherent (but mostly factually empty) self-narrative. cc
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Lucy Suchman’s analysis of plan use (contra Bratman’s school) could probably easily be extended to cover “values” use (as a resource in constructing “accounts” in the ethnomethodological sense). And then the question become empirical psychology rather than philosophy…
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