Insightful thread from @alicemazzy.
I’d add: it’s not about “values.” Those are empty signifiers used merely to construct post hoc rationalizations.
Significant instead is the texture of personal experience: different according to social position.
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Nobody has any “values.” This is a complete myth; one that does more than anything to drive the destructive culture war. (Anyone know of a good write-up of this? If not, I guess I ought to do it; the confusion seems near-universal.)
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Replying to @Meaningness
what are "values" and how are those distinct from values?
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Oh, I was unclear. Those were just sneer quotes. There’s no difference.
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Replying to @Meaningness
is the sneer caused by the culture-war loaded use of the word values? e.g. "values voters" etc. or are you dipping a toe into some post-nihilism here?
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Well, the culture war usage (on both sides) is a particularly harmful manifestation. But “values” is a folk-psychological notion that doesn’t correspond to anything in reality, and is actively misleading in understanding motivations.
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I've generally thought of the word as being a compressed concept that decompresses into a constellation (of varying forms, depending on who/when/what/where) of social norms, survival strategies, and aesthetic judgments.
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there's a lot here of course. would love to read a write up from you on it. I don't generally think of it as not corresponding to anything in reality, but rather that the correspondence is to a nebulous meta-concept.
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That may be a better way of putting it!
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