the worst thing abt jordan peterson is he makes everyone have bad takes abt him why dont you guys shut up and just leave it at associating with gamergate tier ppl is cringey why does everyone gotta go and have bad takes im tired of it
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it reminds me a lot of when SSC said "hey feminism kind of fucked me up maybe?" and every single econ blogger and news site put him on blast and had weird novel "uh actually thats dumb ssc why dont you just do this obvious thing that I think" and got super weird abt it
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everyone chiming in offering their own theory on why but just something weird abt it if not guilt by association with coolness points or making money I havent even ever seen anyone have good thread abt him in any direction I dont get it it shouldnt be too hard whats the deal
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Replying to @St_Rev @turrible_tao
fwiw, I’ve completely failed to figure out what JP is trying to say. Although tbf I haven’t tried very hard. But maybe he’s Rorschach-y because he doesn’t explain clearly where he’s coming from or what he’s trying to accomplish.
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(I probably share this fault)
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Replying to @Meaningness @turrible_tao
He's a center-right version of therapy culture directed mostly at boys and young men. That's only outrageous because it's mildly tabooed to show boys any understanding in the wider culture at the moment.
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Replying to @St_Rev @turrible_tao
OK, yeah, that seems to be what his audience has recently made him. Based on reading his earlier stuff, seems to be a bit of an accident, wandering off his previous agenda. But I have nothing against this for opportunism.
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And, yeah, a center-right version of therapy culture directed mostly at boys and young men is a fine thing IMO and much needed at the moment.
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I’m planning to write REAL SOON NOW about Robert Bly’s failed attempt to do the same “man up!” thing from the center left, 25 years ago. I was peripherally involved in that at the time.
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This would be the next installment in my shadow-eating series (based so far on Bly’s book on that). His _Iron John_ was a valiant attempt to deal with shadow stuff around masculinity, and showed considerable promise, but failed for various reasons I don’t totally understand yet.
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Replying to @Meaningness @St_Rev
I read the one abt eating the shadow I think you mentioned
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