LessWrong rationalist has kensho, attempts valiantly to explain to other LessWrong rationalists, frustration ensues.
As @xuenay suggests, closely parallel to difficulties in explaining meta-rationality—and not by coincidence!https://twitter.com/xuenay/status/955103078893674496 …
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Rationalists say: show us some practical thing this “enlightenment” is good for, then maybe we’ll be interested. Obviously, this totally misses the point. But… Isn’t that a reasonable question?
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Zen and Theravada often fetishize kensho/stream-entry as The Big Deal. Vajrayana takes it as just the initial insight that makes the real work possible. “The real work” *should* have demonstrable practical consequences:https://vividness.live/2012/09/25/mastery/ …
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Replying to @Meaningness
I tend to think of Vajrayana as a response to the inadequacies of prior Buddhisms. Of course, saying so would deeply wound the middle-class moral sentiments of boomer Buddhists. But this is normal procedure in the development of systems of thought & practice after all.
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Yes, I basically agree, although I’d say it is also just different in its aims. If one wants the fruit of hinayana, one might do better to practice hinayana.
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Replying to @Meaningness
Yes, that's a fair point of course. There's certainly a hint of arrogance in that claim I made but I prefer that to the nonsense idea that all systems are basically the same & equal & so shouldn't we all just avoid any critical engagement.
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Right, I agree strongly!
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