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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 11 Jan 2018
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      David Chapman Retweeted Jesse Singal

      I want to agree with this; but a little knowledge of stats can be worse than none. (Whereas trig is just a painful waste of time.) Can the intro course explain its own limits, and the dangers of misuse?https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/951282864498372608 …

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      Jesse SingalVerified account @jessesingal
      It's so much more important for high-schoolers to learn basic statistics than for them to learn trigonometry -- whoever made that decision 150 years ago should be exhumed and fired
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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 12 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @puellavulnerata @tehgeekmeister

      Yes… there’s still some proofs in high school geometry, I believe, but no real explanation of what a proof is and why you should care, so I suspect it’s totally forgotten at the end of the year

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    4. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @puellavulnerata @tehgeekmeister

      This. The significance and nature of proofs is not taught at school, and mostly not even understood by the teachers, because they don't understand the concept of epistemology.

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 12 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @puellavulnerata @Plinz @tehgeekmeister

      Right… and, unfortunately, I don’t think the MIT professors I had as a math undergraduate understood the issues involved at all well either. Anyway, were unwilling to discuss them!

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    7. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @puellavulnerata @tehgeekmeister

      And then you ran into the @rodneyabrooks and he irrevocably burned your brain because you had no epistemological defenses against his embodimentalism and you despaired and because a Buddhist

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 12 Jan 2018
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      Replying to @Plinz @puellavulnerata and

      Just for the historical record, Phil Agre and I got embodiment from Lucy Suchman and Hubert Dreyfus. Rod came to it independently at the same time (as did Leslie Kaelbling & Stan Rosenschein).

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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 12 Jan 2018
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          But “embodiment” mostly misses the point anyway. See this, from 1986:https://meaningness.com/metablog/abstract-emergent …

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        3. michael_nielsen‏ @michael_nielsen 12 Jan 2018
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          This is very interesting; closer to the mark than much writing on embodiment, which often seems like wishful thinking. What of arguments like Chomsky's &, in a different domain, people like Dehaene: that there is substantial innate structure to support certain abstractions?

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        2. Joscha Bach‏ @Plinz 12 Jan 2018
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          Replying to @Meaningness @puellavulnerata and

          When I read Dreyfus, I already had a strong epistemological filter in place, and was only parsing him as: what does he see that everybody else (Turing, Minsky, etc.) is missing? But to read him as primary indoctrination... OMG

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 12 Jan 2018
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          Replying to @Plinz @puellavulnerata and

          When I first read Dreyfus, I had completed a math undergrad degree, a master’s degree in AI, and extensive graduate work in mathematical logic. I was not naive…

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