Cook-Greuter explaining why her thing is way better than Kegan’s: http://www.cook-greuter.com/Comparison%20S-O%20interview%20and%20LDP.pdf …
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
“Its reliability and validity has been extensively tested by leading universities in Europe and the USA since 1970” http://www.clevelandconsultinggroup.com/articles/leadership-development-profile.php …
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I dug into that claim and was disappointed… there’s a Torbert review article that tries to back it up and is super lame. Not finding it now
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Ah, I’ve found a different Torbert review article that is somewhat less lame: http://www.williamrtorbert.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/DevMeasuresCompared1.pdf … Still frustratingly hand-wavey I find
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
More Torbert. Unfortunately adds up to “science is bad if it doesn’t validate our ideas.” (Slight caricature, but…) http://integral-review.org/documents/Torbert,%20Listening%20into%20the%20Dark,%20Vol.%209,%20No.%202.pdf …
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
I’m frustrated by quality of science on this stuff, because I think it’s *probably* right, and important, & so should be tested rigorously.
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Totally with you. And like, "right" not in the sense of "perfect", but in the provisional still-to-be-honed sense that science always has.
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Yup! … people working in this field seem to have an attitude of “we’re under pressure to do these stupid scientific studies, so we will, but
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“we don’t actually see why they are of any value, so we’ll do the minimum necessary to get the numbers critics say they want”
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rather than “we can find out if we’re fooling ourselves and our clients by testing as skeptically as we can, and maybe can improve our >
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… understanding and methods by careful comparative testing.” Of course, that *would* be a lot of work, and probably there’s no funding…
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Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and
… but then they should just be honest and say “subjectively, this stuff seems to work in practice, but we don’t have the resources to test.”
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