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David Chapman

@Meaningness

Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      This is a good 2011 review article on stage 5 cognition: https://jyx.jyu.fi/dspace/bitstream/handle/123456789/37040/Eeva%20Kallio_thpsycPRE_PRINT.pdf?sequence=1 …

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      Cook-Greuter explaining why her thing is way better than Kegan’s: http://www.cook-greuter.com/Comparison%20S-O%20interview%20and%20LDP.pdf …

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      “Its reliability and validity has been extensively tested by leading universities in Europe and the USA since 1970” http://www.clevelandconsultinggroup.com/articles/leadership-development-profile.php …

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      I dug into that claim and was disappointed… there’s a Torbert review article that tries to back it up and is super lame. Not finding it now

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      Ah, I’ve found a different Torbert review article that is somewhat less lame: http://www.williamrtorbert.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/DevMeasuresCompared1.pdf … Still frustratingly hand-wavey I find

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      More Torbert. Unfortunately adds up to “science is bad if it doesn’t validate our ideas.” (Slight caricature, but…) http://integral-review.org/documents/Torbert,%20Listening%20into%20the%20Dark,%20Vol.%209,%20No.%202.pdf …

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      I’m frustrated by quality of science on this stuff, because I think it’s *probably* right, and important, & so should be tested rigorously.

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    8. Malcolm  ☣️cean - check sense of smell  👃 —  🌎 🇨🇦‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 26 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @Meaningness @garybasin @alexeyguzey

      Totally with you. And like, "right" not in the sense of "perfect", but in the provisional still-to-be-honed sense that science always has.

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      Yup! … people working in this field seem to have an attitude of “we’re under pressure to do these stupid scientific studies, so we will, but

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    10. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      “we don’t actually see why they are of any value, so we’ll do the minimum necessary to get the numbers critics say they want”

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @Meaningness @Malcolm_Ocean and

      rather than “we can find out if we’re fooling ourselves and our clients by testing as skeptically as we can, and maybe can improve our >

      10:30 AM - 26 Jul 2017
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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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          … understanding and methods by careful comparative testing.” Of course, that *would* be a lot of work, and probably there’s no funding…

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Jul 2017
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          … but then they should just be honest and say “subjectively, this stuff seems to work in practice, but we don’t have the resources to test.”

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