I like the Idea that we might reframe the Orphic religion as a Greek cognate Shamanism. (to use @Jayarava's term)
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Replying to @jaspergregory @Meaningness
what is the common ancestor here?
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Replying to @Jayarava @Meaningness
I thought it just meant homologous. I think the neurobiology of altered states might be the common point
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Replying to @jaspergregory @Meaningness
Nope. Two words are cognate if they share a common root: e.g. "fart" and Skt "pardate" < PIE *perd "to fart loudly" https://lrc.la.utexas.edu/lex/master/1495
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Replying to @Jayarava @Meaningness
I need a word for when two thing share a structure and we don't make assumptions about why. I think Homologous works, so Homolog?
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Replying to @jaspergregory @Meaningness
looking at defn's of homology, it generally means "cognate" - i.e. it implies shared history or ancestry. Which is not implied in your eg.
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Replying to @Jayarava @jaspergregory
“Homomorphism” is close, although not quite ideal: https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=homomorphism …
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Replying to @Meaningness @jaspergregory
Where something is shared or equal the prefix is iso- e.g. isotopic: sharing a place in the periodic table. Isobar - the same pressure. Etc.
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Replying to @Jayarava @jaspergregory
Well, “isomorphism” is also a word: https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=isomorphism …
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In math, “isomorphic” means “absolutely identical structure,” whereas “homomorphism” is more like “similar structure”
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But, isn’t the word that’s wanted here just “analogous”?
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Replying to @Meaningness @Jayarava
perhaps, but analogous seems to imply that they are not cognates, that the relationship is purely subjective.
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