One text I read, said that Viet multi-armed Avalokiteshvara indicates "Mantrayana", which I believe is another term for tantric buddhism
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Replying to @jaspergregory
Yes, that’s correct. Also “esoteric Buddhism” is a common term in East Asia that is ~ equivalent to “Vajrayana”/“Tantrayana.”
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As far as I know, multi-armed deities are exclusively tantric (but that’s by induction; don’t think I’ve specifically read it
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Sometimes I see the multi armed one in psychedelic (tantric) temples, but sometimes i see one in a plain pure land type setting
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Well a lot of stuff seems to have crossed over in both directions. One would have to go back to the earliest stuff
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I recently saw one of the 11 headed ones with a buddha standing on top. domestication?
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The basic origin myth for yogatantra and above is the forced conversion of non-Buddhist deities/demons, so probably yes
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There’s one version in which Avalokiteshvara and Manjushri anally rape Shiva to subjugate him. (Tantra is not for sissies…)
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However that is mahayoga, which didn’t get to East Asia, so the Buddhas there are somewhat nicer
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I’m not sure what good a nice Buddha is In a showdown between gods they’re like bringing a nerf gun
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