indeed, & the poor practitioners have no way to make *meaning* from what's happening. Gets labeled. Interesting
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Replying to @thatyellowfog @briandavidearp
That it can be dangerous, and that most teachers are ill-equipped to help, are importantly right
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Replying to @Meaningness @briandavidearp
I recently began meditation. Zen. It's agony, but fascinating. Certainly don't think of it as "relaxation." :-)
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Replying to @thatyellowfog @briandavidearp
Weirdly enough, if you go hardcore, it can eventually become relaxing—once the agony passes. A year maybe!
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if you have time, could you let me know what you think of this: http://www.wisdompubs.org/blog/201403/everyone-comes-meditation-practice-wrong-reason-conversation-psychoanalyst-barry-magid ….
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Replying to @thatyellowfog
Hmm… there’s a lot there. What is the question behind your question? (What about it intrigues or irritates you?)
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I think there is quite a bit of wisdom in there. However, reminscent of your comment about Western Buddhist ethics being a
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version of secular Liberal ethics. Some of the *strangeness* of Buddhism is lost, maybe deliberately, to domesticate it. I am a
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beginner, so I thought I would see what you think. Only if/when you have time, of course. Don't want to be a bother! Thanks! :)
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Well, there’s a lot of different themes in that interview, and it’s hard to have an overall reaction.
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It’s certainly a contemporary Western interpretation, and probably quite different from anything in Japan before 1900.
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Replying to @Meaningness @thatyellowfog
But I don’t know much about Zen, really. I’ve never practiced it at all, or studied it in any depth.
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