Adapting an ascetic, radical monastic transformation practice as stress treatment worked surprisingly well…
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but it is unsurprising that sometimes the ego-killing effects that were originally intended do emerge!
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Replying to @Meaningness @briandavidearp
indeed, & the poor practitioners have no way to make *meaning* from what's happening. Gets labeled. Interesting
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Replying to @thatyellowfog @briandavidearp
That it can be dangerous, and that most teachers are ill-equipped to help, are importantly right
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Replying to @Meaningness @briandavidearp
I recently began meditation. Zen. It's agony, but fascinating. Certainly don't think of it as "relaxation." :-)
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Replying to @thatyellowfog @briandavidearp
Weirdly enough, if you go hardcore, it can eventually become relaxing—once the agony passes. A year maybe!
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Replying to @Meaningness
if you have time, could you let me know what you think of this: http://www.wisdompubs.org/blog/201403/everyone-comes-meditation-practice-wrong-reason-conversation-psychoanalyst-barry-magid ….
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Replying to @thatyellowfog
Hmm… there’s a lot there. What is the question behind your question? (What about it intrigues or irritates you?)
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Replying to @Meaningness
I think there is quite a bit of wisdom in there. However, reminscent of your comment about Western Buddhist ethics being a
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Replying to @thatyellowfog @Meaningness
version of secular Liberal ethics. Some of the *strangeness* of Buddhism is lost, maybe deliberately, to domesticate it. I am a
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