maybe relevant: the ethics of ppl like @elonmusk & @leashless seem to be based largely on goal of mitigating existential risk
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Replying to @_jordan_bates
Yeeesss… I see what they are doing (and x-risk mitigation in general) as practical, not ethical. Maybe just semantics.
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Replying to @Meaningness
interesting, i gotcha. effective altruism movement seems to frame x-risk mitigation as ethical; guess i inherited their frame
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Replying to @_jordan_bates
I’m generally aligned with EA, but I think their narrative is somewhat distorted by “mission,” a “confused stance”….
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Replying to @Meaningness
ah, that's really interesting. i'm sure a full-length critique of EA within your framework would interest many people
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Replying to @_jordan_bates
Too many things to write! And I basically think EA is very good, although a bit distorted in some ways.
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Replying to @Meaningness @_jordan_bates
The utilitarian framework is a problem partly because it makes it hard to find room for supererogation (and so freedom).
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Replying to @Meaningness @_jordan_bates
Or, to put the same thing a different way, EA tends to amplify ethical anxiety, which I don’t think is healthy.
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Replying to @Meaningness @_jordan_bates
“Am I ethical enough?” is a bad question. “What can I do to be useful that would also be enjoyable” is a better one.
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Replying to @Meaningness @_jordan_bates
The part of EA that I like is the attempt to get clearer about “useful/effective.” I’m less enthusiastic about “altruism”
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because it tends to be about “me” (or, no better, about “them”) instead of being kind and useful.
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Replying to @Meaningness
interesting. i'm curious how this relates to/reconciles with your conception of nobility (https://approachingaro.org/nobility )pic.twitter.com/nsEyi9hpbT
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Replying to @_jordan_bates
Hmm… I can see how that might seem discordant… I might write that now in more relational language; I’m not sure!
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