Korzybski coined the phrase, but was cracked, and his discussion veers between trivial and insane
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Yudkowski has a whole “sequence” that is supposedly about it, but never does more than mention it in passing (three time total, by my count)
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To the slight extent that I can guess what Yudkowski was thinking, it’s that the map should be as nearly as poss isomorphic to the territory
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… and the “good idea in the vicinity” is almost exactly the opposite: understanding the map/territory relationship as isomorphism is wrong
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I would like to explain the nearby good idea to rationalists, but they are likely to say “isn’t this just ‘the map is not the territory’?”
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This is always the problem with explaining things to rationalists: they are super-resistant to admitting their ideas are incoherent.
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I want to find inconsistencies in my ideas so I can improve them, but I have no idea (yet) what your angle is re: map/territory
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Will probably have to be a long and difficult post. Attempt in a tweet:
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Representation and reality are sufficiently dissimilar in kind that the ideal of isomorphism is irrelevant & misleading.
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What does getting this wrong entail? Derailing AI research or failing in many other disciplines?
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Getting clear about this is an enabling technology for “meta-rationality” or “stage 5”: understanding how >
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all systems are qualitatively inaccurate, not just quantitatively.
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