… and the “good idea in the vicinity” is almost exactly the opposite: understanding the map/territory relationship as isomorphism is wrong
I do actually understand that view, thanks! It’s just that I can’t find a standard text that’s recent and clear.
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Ironically, there's a pretty clear expansion of this in the Principia Discordia, but no one gets points there.
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makes sense since Korzybski was a major influence. Which bit is it?
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oh, to respond to so that others don't just dismiss you as strawmanning or something?
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Yes, exactly! A “strong text.”
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